Showing posts with label voodoo. Show all posts
Showing posts with label voodoo. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 21, 2012

Brain Scanning - Just the Tip of the Iceberg?

Neuroimaging studies may be giving us a misleading picture of the brain, according to two big papers just out.


By big, I don't just mean important. Both studies made use of a much larger set of data than is usual in neuroimaging studies. Thyreau et al scanned 1,326 people. For comparison, a lot of fMRI studies have more like n=13. Gonzalez-Castillo et al, on the other hand, only had 3 people - but each one was scanned while performing the same task 500 times over.

Both studies found that pretty much the whole brain "lit up" when people are doing simple tasks. In one case it was seeing videos of people's faces, in the other it was deciding whether stimuli on the screen were letters or numbers.

With all that data, the authors could detect effects too small to be noticed in most fMRI experiments, and it turned out that pretty much everywhere was activated. The signal was stronger in some areas than others, but it wasn't limited to particular "blobs".

So conventional fMRI experiments may just be showing us the tip of the iceberg of brain activity. In a small study, only the strongest activations pass the statistical threshold to show up as blobs, but that doesn't mean the rest of the brain is inactive. It just means it's less active. The idea that only small parts of the brain are 'involved' in any particular task may be a statistical artefact.

In fact, I wonder if the whole idea of treating statistically significant blobs as different from nearly-significant areas is itself a form of the error of interacting effects?

As if that wasn't enough, Gonzalez-Castillo further show that there are lots of activations in the brain - even to very simple stimuli - that might go undetected in conventional studies, because they don't follow the time-course predicted by the usual models.

Have a look -


This shows the average neural activation from various regions of the brain during a letter-number task. The two areas I've highlighted in red are the primary visual cortex, and they do follow the expected 'boxcar' pattern - the brain is active when the stimuli are on the screen, inactive when they're not. But you can see that all kinds of other brain areas are also responding to the stimuli - just in different ways.

For example, the left primary motor cortex was activated during the task. That area controls the right hand, and that makes sense, as people responded by pressing buttons with the right hand. But interestingly, the same area on the other side of the brain was deactivated at exactly the same time, even though people weren't doing anything with their left hand.

These papers illustrate the fact that conventional fMRI is a blunt instrument that often only tells us about the most straightforward events that happen in the brain. A bit like how we only hear the shouts and screams from through our neighbor's walls, not their normal conversations, which aren't loud enough to reach our ears.

That's the bad news, but every blob has a silver lining. fMRI is clearly more powerful than most neuroscientists have realized, and this holds out hope for cracking some of the trickiest questions. As Gonzalez-Castillo et al put it
This result helps narrow the gap between thousands of fMRI manuscripts showing limited activation in response to tasks and cognition theories that defend that cognition—understood as the process of “configuring the way in which sensory information becomes linked to adaptive responses and meaningful experiences”—can only result from the distributed collaboration of primary sensory, upstream and downstream unimodal, heteromodal, paralimbic, and limbic regions... [we were able to] switch from a regime where activity detection relates primary to sensory processing to a more sensitive regime, where activity detection includes also cognitive processes with subtler BOLD signatures.
Link: See also the interesting discussion here: Surely, God loves the .06 (blob) nearly as much as the .05.


ResearchBlogging.orgThyreau, B., Schwartz, Y., Thirion, B., Frouin, V., Loth, E., Vollstädt-Klein, S., Paus, T., Artiges, E., Conrod, P., Schumann, G., Whelan, R., and Poline, J. (2012). Very large fMRI study using the IMAGEN database: Sensitivity–specificity and population effect modeling in relation to the underlying anatomy NeuroImage DOI: 10.1016/j.neuroimage.2012.02.083

Gonzalez-Castillo, J., Saad, Z., Handwerker, D., Inati, S., Brenowitz, N., and Bandettini, P. (2012). Whole-brain, time-locked activation with simple tasks revealed using massive averaging and model-free analysis Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1121049109

Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Voodoo Neuroscience Revisited

Two years ago, neuroscientists were shaken by the appearance of a draft paper showing that half of the published work in a particular field had fallen prey to a major statistical error.


Originally called "Voodoo Correlations in Social Neuroscience", it ended up with the less snappy name of Puzzlingly high correlations in fMRI studies of emotion, personality, and social cognition. I prefer the old title.

The error in question is now known variously as the "circular analysis problem", "non-independence problem" or "double-dipping" although I still call it the "voodoo problem". In a nutshell it arises whenever you take a large set of data, search for data points which are statistically significantly different from some baseline (null hypothesis), and then go on to perform further statistics only on those significant data points.

The problem is that when you picked out the statistically significant observations, you selected the data points that were especially "good", so if you then do some more analyses only on those data, you are almost guaranteed to find something "good". To avoid this you need to make sure that your second analysis is truly independent of your first one.

Anyway, Vul and Pashler, the main authors of the original voodoo article, have just written a short piece in NeuroImage offering some reflections on the paper and the aftermath. They don't make any major new arguments but it's a good read. Particularly fun is their explanation of what inspired them to look into the voodoo problem:
In early 2005 a speaker in our department reported that BOLD activity in a small region of the brain can account for the great majority of the variance in speed with which subjects walk out of the experiment several hours later (this finding was never published as far as we know). The implications of this result struck us as puzzling, to say the least: Are walking speeds really so reliable that most of their variability can be predicted? Does a focal cortical region determine walking speeds? Are walking speeds largely predetermined hours in advance? These implications all struck us as far-fetched...
But they reveal that it was one paper in particular that set them off voodoo-hunting
Our interest in probing the matter was further whetted by an episode occurring a short while later: Grill-Spector et al. (2006) reported that individual voxels in face selective regions have a variety of stable stimulus preferences; in a critical commentary, Baker et al. (2007) found that the analysis used to ascertain this fact implicitly built these conclusions into the method, such that the same analysis applied to noise data (voxels from the nasal cavity) revealed a similar variety of stable preferences. It occurred to us that a similar circularity might underlie the puzzlingly high correlations.

To their credit, Grill-Spector et al quickly accepted Baker et al's criticism and admitted that some of their original conclusions had been wrong.

ResearchBlogging.orgVul, E., and Pashler, H. (2012). Voodoo and circularity errors NeuroImage DOI: 10.1016/j.neuroimage.2012.01.027

Saturday, November 26, 2011

Beware Dead Fish Statistics

An editorial in the Journal of Physiology offers some important notes on statistics.


But even more importantly, it refers to a certain blog in the process:
The Student’s t-test merely quantifies the ‘Lack of support’ for no effect. It is left to the user of the test to decide how convincing this lack might be. A further difficulty is evident in the repeated samples we show in Figure 2: one of those samples was quite improbable because the P-value was 0.03, which suggests a substantial lack of support, but that’s chance for you! A parody of this effect of multiple sampling, taken to extremes, can be found at http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/2009/09/fmri-gets-slap-in-face-with-dead-fish.html
This makes it the second academic paper to refer to this blog as far. Although I feel rather bad about this one, since the citation ought to have been to the original dead salmon brain scanning study by Craig Bennett. I just wrote about it.

Actually, though, this editorial was published in five separate journals: The Journal of Physiology, Experimental Physiology, the British Journal of Pharmacology, Advances in Physiology Education, Microcirculation, and Clinical and Experimental Pharmacology and Physiology. Phew.

In fact, you could say that this makes not two but six citations for Neuroskeptic now. Yes. Let's go with that.

Anyway, after discussing the history of the ubiquitous Student's t-test - which was invented in a brewery - it reminds us that the p value you get from such a t-test doesn't tell you how likely it is that your results are "real".

Rather, it tells you how often you'd get the result you did, if there was no effect and it was just random chance. That's a big difference. A p value of 0.01 doesn't mean your results are 99% likely to be real. It means that there's a 1% chance that you'd get them, by chance. But if you did say 100 experiments, or more likely, 100 statistical tests on the same data, then you'd expect to get at least one result with a p value of 0.01 purely by chance.

In that case it would be silly to think that the finding was only 1% likely to be a fluke. Of course it could be true. But we'd have no particular reason to think so until we get some more data.

This is what the dead salmon study was all about. This multiple comparisons issue is very old, but very important. Arguably the biggest problem in science today is that we're doing too many comparisons and only reporting the significant ones.

ResearchBlogging.orgDrummond GB, & Tom BD (2011). Statistics, probability, significance, likelihood: words mean what we define them to mean. British journal of pharmacology, 164 (6), 1573-6 PMID: 22022804